100 Years Jay · Chanting With Vaidya Jay
The Vata Locations Chant
What Ayurveda Teaches About Menopause, Dryness, Bones, Oil, and the Body's Wisdom
A Conversation Between Vaidya Jay & Dr. Krista Ramonas · June 2026
Dr. Krista Ramonas
Board-certified MD · Female Longevity · Ayurvedic Medicine Specialist · Trustee, Team USA Olympics & Paralympics
Founder, LabX MD · San Francisco
T here are teachings in Ayurveda that were not written only to be read. They were written to be remembered.
They were written in rhythm, sound, and poetry so that the knowledge could live inside the practitioner. This is one reason Vaidya Jay begins with chanting. The chant is not decoration. It is a way of storing wisdom in the body, in the breath, and in the memory.
In this conversation, Vaidya Jay and Dr. Krista Ramonas explore a traditional chant from the Ashtanga Hridaya, one of Ayurveda's classical textbooks. The chant names the primary locations of Vata in the body: the colon, lower back, thighs and knees, ears, bones, and sense of touch.
At first, this may sound like a list. But as the conversation unfolds, the list becomes deeply practical.
These are the same areas where many people begin to notice change with age — especially during perimenopause and menopause: dryness, lower back discomfort, joint changes, hearing changes, skin changes, bone health concerns, and a greater need for nourishment.
This page follows the conversation in four chapters: why Ayurveda uses chanting, where Vata lives in the body, why menopause is considered a Vata stage of life, and why oil is one of Vata's greatest friends.
Chapter One
Why we chant. Wisdom stored in sound.
Before the chant begins, Dr. Krista Ramonas asks Vaidya Jay what they are going to chant during their Thursday morning group. This opens the door to one of the most beautiful ideas in Ayurveda: that knowledge can be stored through sound.
Vaidya Jay explains that the chant comes from the Ashtanga Hridaya, often translated as "The Heart of the Eight Branches of Ayurveda." Rather than simply presenting information in a modern textbook style, Ayurveda preserved many teachings in poetic form.
Why? Because poetry can be remembered. Chanting allows the teaching to remain close. When a practitioner is sitting with a client, patient, or rogi, the memorized wisdom can naturally arise.
In Jay's words, the teaching becomes a kind of "whispering wisdom."
This gives the reader an important frame for the whole page. The chant is not just a spiritual practice. It is a clinical memory system. It helps the practitioner remember what to look for, where imbalance may appear, and how to bring the body back toward balance.
Transcript Backbone
Dr. Krista opens by saying: "Oh, Vaidya-ji, I so appreciate the chanting we've been doing together on Thursday mornings in the group you've created for us on WhatsApp. Can you tell me what we're going to chant today?"
Vaidya Jay explains that the chanting is from the seventh-century Ayurvedic textbook, Ashtanga Hridaya, which he describes as the Heart of the Eight Branches of Ayurveda.
He says that these chapters contain the core doctrine of Ayurveda. They are learned in the form of chanting because chanting keeps the teaching in consciousness and awareness.
When a practitioner sees a client, patient, or rogi, the words that have been stored through chanting can naturally flow out. The wisdom is already there.
Jay explains that this may be why Ayurveda was written in poetic form: so there is a song for every imbalance, and a remembered pathway for bringing the body back into balance.
Key Takeaways
- 🌿 Ayurveda uses chanting as a way to preserve knowledge.
- 🌿 Chanting helps practitioners remember the core teachings.
- 🌿 The Ashtanga Hridaya is one of Ayurveda's foundational texts.
- 🌿 The chant is not only devotional; it is also practical.
- 🌿 The sound carries clinical memory.
Chapter Two
Where Vata lives. The six locations.
The chant discussed in this conversation comes from the chapter describing the locations of Vata.
Vata is one of Ayurveda's three doshas. It is associated with movement, communication, elimination, circulation, the nervous system, and the subtle activity of the body and mind.
Jay explains that Vata is all-pervasive. It influences the whole body and mind. But Ayurveda also teaches that Vata has specific locations where it tends to reside and where symptoms may appear when it becomes aggravated.
The chant names six locations
- Pakvashaya — colon or large intestine
- Kati — lower back and pelvis
- Sakthi — thighs, loins, and knees
- Shrotra — ears and hearing
- Asthi — bones
- Sparshanendriya — sense of touch and skin
This list is simple, but it is powerful. It tells us where to look when Vata is disturbed. It also explains why certain age-related and menopause-related symptoms often appear in these exact areas.
Transcript Backbone
Jay begins teaching the chant word by word.
He says: Pakvashaya. Dr. Krista repeats.
Then: Kati. Jay explains the pronunciation by connecting it to the English word "cut" — "like as if you're going to cut. Kati."
Then: Sakthi.
Then: Shrotra. Jay explains that Shrotra refers to hearing.
Then: Asthi — bones.
Then: Sparshanendriya — the sense of touch.
After the chant, Jay explains the meaning. Pakvashaya is the colon, the large intestine. Kati is the lower back and pelvic region. Sakthi refers to the region of the loins, thighs, and knees. Shrotra is hearing. Asthi is the bones. Sparshanendriya is the sense of touch.
Jay explains that these are the areas where Vata likes to reside because of its functional importance. Vata is connected to elimination — including bowel movements, urination, and even the menstrual cycle. He compares this function to the body's sewage system, connected to the genito-urinary system.
But Vata is not only in the colon or pelvis. Jay explains that Vata is also seen in the bones, ears, and skin.
Key Takeaways
- 🌿 Vata has specific locations in the body.
- 🌿 These locations help explain where symptoms may appear.
- 🌿 The colon is one of the most important seats of Vata.
- 🌿 Vata is connected to elimination, movement, and the genito-urinary system.
- 🌿 Vata also expresses through the bones, ears, skin, and sense of touch.
Chapter Three
Vata and menopause. The rising tide.
This is where the conversation becomes especially important for women's health.
Dr. Krista Ramonas, founder of LabX MD in San Francisco and a board-certified MD specializing in female longevity, immediately connects the teaching to menopause. She says she is glad they are discussing Vata because menopause is a Vata stage of life.
In Ayurveda, life moves through different doshic seasons. Childhood is often associated with Kapha, the middle years with Pitta, and later life with Vata. Menopause is part of this transition into a more Vata-predominant phase.
This does not mean something is wrong. It means the body is changing.
Vata has qualities of dryness, lightness, mobility, subtlety, and instability. When these qualities rise too strongly, the body may begin to show signs such as dry skin, dry eyes, dry mouth, vaginal dryness, constipation, sleep disturbance, anxiety, joint discomfort, and changes in bone health.
What makes the chant so valuable is that it points directly to the places where these changes may appear.
The chant says Vata resides in the colon, pelvis, thighs and knees, ears, bones, and skin. In the conversation, Jay and Krista connect this to common menopause concerns: dryness, hearing changes, osteoporosis, and the visible acceleration of aging in the skin.
This is the power of the ancient list. It is not theoretical. It maps directly onto the lived experience of aging.
Transcript Backbone
Dr. Krista says: "I'm glad we're going to discuss Vata, because that's the menopausal stage of life. And it's important for women to understand as they enter beyond 50, that this is the predominant area that we need to quiet."
Later, Jay brings the chant into the experience of aging and menopause.
He explains that as we age in menopause, one of the things we see is the skin becoming extremely dry. Aging may show up quickly. Audibility can begin to come down. Bone concerns, such as osteoporosis, may become more important.
Dr. Krista responds by recognizing that the chant is telling us what to expect when there is too much Vata.
The locations are not random. The chant names the bones. It names hearing. It names the skin and sense of touch. It names the lower body and pelvis. These are the same areas that may call for deeper care as women move through menopause and beyond.
Key Takeaways
- 🌿 Menopause is understood in Ayurveda as a Vata stage of life.
- 🌿 Vata tends to increase with age.
- 🌿 Vata-related changes may include dryness, tissue loss, and instability.
- 🌿 The chant helps identify where symptoms may appear.
- 🌿 Menopause care in Ayurveda often focuses on calming, nourishing, and lubricating Vata.
Chapter Four
Oil is the friend. Practices for Vata.
When Dr. Krista asks how Ayurveda treats elevated Vata, Jay gives a simple answer: Oil.
In Ayurveda, oil is one of the great friends of Vata because it carries opposite qualities. Vata is dry, light, mobile, and rough. Oil is heavy, smooth, nourishing, grounding, and lubricating.
Jay emphasizes that Ayurveda does not wait until symptoms become severe. The care begins earlier. The body is supported before dryness and depletion become more visible.
This is why traditional Ayurvedic daily routines include oil in so many forms:
- Nasya — oil for the nasal passages
- Abhyanga — full-body oil massage
- Oil pulling — swishing oil in the mouth
- Karna Purana — oiling the ears
- Ghee — nourishing fat used internally when appropriate
Jay also discusses healthy fats more broadly, including omegas and MCT oil, and says that if nothing else is available, coconut oil can be a good external oil to begin with, especially in summer.
Dr. Krista adds the modern medical perspective. She notes that healthy fats are important for absorbing many essential nutrients, especially vitamin D.
Jay agrees and explains that ghee is considered a best friend in Ayurveda. But he also adds an important caution: Ayurveda always uses quantity and context. Body type, season, activity level, metabolism, and health conditions all matter.
This is not a one-size-fits-all recommendation. It is a personalized system.
Transcript Backbone
Dr. Krista asks: "So how do we treat this?"
Jay answers that the best friend is oil. He explains that Ayurveda recommends oiling before we begin noticing the signs of Vata aggravation. It is not only a reaction to symptoms. It is a daily support system.
He says Ayurveda has oils for specific uses and purposes: nasal oil, oral swish, and sometimes even oil enema.
He explains that when Vata increases, it causes dryness, tissue loss, and instability. It may also cause roughness, dry eyes, dry mouth, and vaginal dryness.
Dr. Krista names the practices: Nasya oil. Abhyanga oil. Oil pulling in the mouth. And then she asks what it is called when we oil the ears.
Jay answers: Karna Purana.
Dr. Krista then brings in the Western perspective, explaining that healthy oils are needed to absorb many essential vitamins and nutrients. In particular, vitamin D cannot be absorbed without healthy fat.
Jay adds that ghee is considered a best friend in Ayurveda and that ghee helps facilitate vitamin D absorption.
Dr. Krista asks whether people should worry about ghee if they have high cholesterol. Jay says yes, we do consider that. Ayurveda has quantification for everything. Things must be used wisely. Body type, season, physical activity, and metabolism all play a role in choosing the right daily dose.
Key Takeaways
- 🌿 Oil is one of Ayurveda's primary supports for Vata.
- 🌿 Oiling is recommended before dryness becomes severe.
- 🌿 Vata care includes external and internal nourishment.
- 🌿 Traditional practices include Nasya, Abhyanga, oil pulling, and Karna Purana.
- 🌿 Healthy fats support absorption of fat-soluble nutrients.
- 🌿 Ghee may be beneficial, but quantity and individual context matter.
The Return
The Chant As A Map For Aging
The beauty of this chant is that it does not separate ancient wisdom from modern experience.
It names the colon, pelvis, thighs and knees, ears, bones, and skin.
Then, in the conversation, those same areas become the practical map for menopause and aging:
Dry skin. Dry eyes. Dry mouth. Vaginal dryness. Hearing changes. Bone concerns. Lower body changes.
The chant becomes a diagnostic reminder. It tells the practitioner where Vata may hide, where it may speak, and where care may be needed.
This is why chanting matters. It carries the teaching in a form that can be remembered. And when the teaching is remembered, it can be lived.
Five Practices
Daily Vata support practices mentioned in this conversation.
Nasya is the practice of applying oil to the nasal passages. In Ayurveda, the nose is an important gateway to the head, senses, and subtle channels.
Abhyanga is warm oil massage for the body. It is one of the most beloved Ayurvedic practices for calming Vata, grounding the nervous system, and nourishing the skin.
Oil pulling, or oral swishing, brings oil into the mouth as part of a daily routine. It connects directly to the oral tissues and the sense organs.
Karna Purana is the practice of oiling the ears. This is especially meaningful because the chant identifies hearing as one of Vata's locations.
Ghee is traditionally respected in Ayurveda as a nourishing fat. In this conversation, Jay and Krista also connect healthy fats to the absorption of vitamin D and other nutrients.
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Vaidya Jay's Notes
Frequently Asked Questions
What is Vata in Ayurveda?
Vata is one of the three doshas in Ayurveda. It governs movement, communication, elimination, circulation, nerve activity, and many subtle functions of the body and mind.
What are the main locations of Vata in the body?
The classical chant names the colon, lower back and pelvis, thighs and knees, hearing, bones, and sense of touch as important locations of Vata.
Why is the colon important in Vata?
The colon is one of the primary seats of Vata because Vata governs elimination, including bowel movement and the downward movement of waste from the body.
Why is menopause connected to Vata?
In Ayurveda, aging is naturally associated with an increase in Vata. Menopause often brings more Vata-like qualities, such as dryness, lightness, instability, sleep changes, and tissue depletion.
What are common signs of increased Vata during menopause?
Common signs may include dry skin, dry eyes, dry mouth, vaginal dryness, constipation, sleep disturbance, anxiety, joint discomfort, hearing changes, and bone health concerns.
Why does Ayurveda recommend oil for Vata?
Oil helps balance the dry, rough, mobile, and light qualities of Vata. It brings lubrication, nourishment, grounding, and stability.
What is Nasya?
Nasya is the Ayurvedic practice of applying oil to the nasal passages. It is often used as part of a daily routine to support the head, senses, and upper channels.
What is Abhyanga?
Abhyanga is Ayurvedic oil massage. It is commonly used to nourish the skin, calm Vata, support circulation, and create a sense of grounding.
What is Karna Purana?
Karna Purana is the practice of applying oil to the ears. It is traditionally used to support the ears and hearing, which are connected to Vata in the classical chant.
Is ghee good for menopause?
Ghee is traditionally valued in Ayurveda as a nourishing fat. However, Jay explains that quantity matters. Body type, season, metabolism, physical activity, and health conditions should all be considered.
Should people with high cholesterol use ghee?
Jay says this should be considered carefully. Ayurveda does not recommend the same amount for everyone. People with cholesterol concerns should use ghee wisely and consult a qualified practitioner or physician.
What is the main lesson of the Vata locations chant?
The chant teaches that Vata has specific locations in the body. By understanding those locations, we can better recognize where imbalance may appear and how to support the body before symptoms become more serious.
About The Conversation
Vaidya Jay
Founder · Athreya Herbs
Vaidya Jay is a traditional Ayurvedic practitioner and the founder of Athreya Herbs. He hosts a weekly chanting session on Thursday mornings on WhatsApp, teaching practitioners and students the foundational shlokas of Ashtanga Hridaya.
athreyaherbs.com
Long Beach, CA
Dr. Krista Ramonas
Founder · LabX MD
Dr. Krista Ramonas is a board-certified MD specializing in female longevity and Ayurvedic medicine. She is the founder of LabX MD in San Francisco and serves as a trustee for Team USA Olympics & Paralympics. Her practice bridges Western diagnostics with traditional Ayurvedic protocols, with a particular focus on women navigating perimenopause and beyond.
labxmd.com
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San Francisco, CA 94115
415.658.7770 · elizabeth@labxmd.com
